Super C RVs => SuperC Info and Discussions => Topic started by: Coug_alum on July 07, 2008, 01:43:26 pm
Title: Shortest Kodiak
Post by: Coug_alum on July 07, 2008, 01:43:26 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 1365 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/supercrvgroup/conversations/messages/1365)What is the shortest Kodiak out there?
My ideal RV would have a rear corner bed next to a rear bathroom, a dinette with four seatbelts, and, a cab at floor level of the RV with both seats swiveling around. The swiveling front seats take the place of a sofa.
This should all be done in under 28'. A Kodiak chassis would be perfect, because the CCC would be incredible.
The existing RVs that have this sort of floor plan have under-sized chassis, providing 800#, often much less, of CCC.
I could see the dry weight of such a unit coming in around 14k-15k, on a 19.5k Kodiak chassis.
Does this exist?
Thanks.
Title: Re: Shortest Kodiak
Post by: rsri1 on July 07, 2008, 01:49:32 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 1366 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/supercrvgroup/conversations/messages/1366) I do not believe any Kodiak chassis will have a level floor from the cab to the coach.
Title: Re: Shortest Kodiak
Post by: Ron Hall on July 07, 2008, 02:10:00 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 1367 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/supercrvgroup/conversations/messages/1367)I do not think there is a recent class C that does not have a drop down to the cab area.
Title: Re: Shortest Kodiak
Post by: grandriver125 on July 07, 2008, 02:34:15 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 1368 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/supercrvgroup/conversations/messages/1368)I've never seen one like this BUT I have to tell you our specs were very close to this as well. In our case we needed something to tow a Tahoe (which our 40 ft 10 in Ambassador with Cummins ISC towed very well) and the only thing we could identify was the 32SS at 32.5 ft (at a reasonable price, that is). We would have preferred 28 or less as well.
If you ever find something like this do let me know. :)
I'm hoping that someone will build something like this with the new GM 4.5 litre Duramax diesel (300 hp, torque 500+). My guess is that a 28 footer with the 4.5 Duramax should be able to get 12+ mpg.
Don
On 7-Jul-08, at 1:43 PM, coug_alum wrote:
Title: Re: Shortest Kodiak
Post by: grandriver125 on July 07, 2008, 02:35:22 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 1369 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/supercrvgroup/conversations/messages/1369)Agreed. If it did, then a good chunk of the basement storage would disappear.
Don
On 7-Jul-08, at 1:49 PM,
Title: Re: Shortest Kodiak
Post by: grandriver125 on July 07, 2008, 02:39:22 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 1370 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/supercrvgroup/conversations/messages/1370)Ron I think the Navion has a model like that but some call it a B+. It really is a C though.
Watch the video. http://www.winnebagoind.com/products/itasca/2009/navion-iq/ (http://www.winnebagoind.com/products/itasca/2009/navion-iq/)
Don
On 7-Jul-08, at 2:09 PM, Ron Hall wrote:
Title: Re: Shortest Kodiak
Post by: jeffreyalbertine on July 07, 2008, 03:04:01 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 1371 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/supercrvgroup/conversations/messages/1371)I have a Pony Xpress that's on the Kodiak chassis. There is only a 2" drop from the coach floor to the cab. They offer it in a 20 foot model, but that doesn't include the cab, so with the cab it's 28 feet long. It'll haul 10,000 lbs, and it's a high quality unit in my opinion. http://silvercrowncoach.com (http://silvercrowncoach.com)
Jeff
, "grandriver125@..." wrote:
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Ron I think the Navion has a model like that but some call it a
Title: Re: Shortest Kodiak
Post by: grandriver125 on July 07, 2008, 06:09:58 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 1372 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/supercrvgroup/conversations/messages/1372)Jeff, I downloaded the brochure but no where do they seem to provide dimensions.
No question it appears to be much higher quality than most. What is the price for the 28 ft unit with most options?
Tx
Don
On 7-Jul-08, at 3:03 PM, jeffreyalbertine wrote:
Title: Re: Shortest Kodiak
Post by: Ron Hall on July 07, 2008, 06:29:29 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 1373 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/supercrvgroup/conversations/messages/1373)Chuck Stoll (BAGMAN) and I did a tour of the Silver Crown plant last April. Very well put together RV. I made it a point to look at the 28' model. The 28' model is very close to the size of my 34' GS. They have this neat feature where the rear bedroom slide goes out back instead of side. They also offer the 28' in the Elite. Be sitting down when you get the price. You can get it on either the Kodiak or Frieghtliner M2 chassis. As nice as they are. They are way out of my price range. Maybe a good deal will come along on a used one in the future.
Title: Re: Shortest Kodiak
Post by: Coug_alum on July 07, 2008, 07:00:23 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 1374 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/supercrvgroup/conversations/messages/1374)Thanks for the responses.
A 2" drop is very reasonable. Up to, probably, 6" would be reasonable, to allow the front seats to swivel and still be comfortable. I could fab some 'short' ottomans.
I recognize that a lot of storage space would be lost. However, this would provide for a lower overall profile.
Someone mentioned the Navion. That is exactly the floor plan that I eluded to in my original post. However, the CCC works out to be about 500#, ridiculous.
I'd like a unit that is small enough so that I don't need a toad. This would require, in my estimation, less than 28' total length.
Given the acceptable minimal cab-floor drop, is there a Kodiak that meets these specs?
Thanks.
, "jeffreyalbertine" wrote:
Title: Re: Shortest Kodiak
Post by: jeffreyalbertine on July 08, 2008, 10:35:45 am
Yahoo Message Number: 1384 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/supercrvgroup/conversations/messages/1384)I'm not sure of the prices, you would have to contact one of their dealers. You can call the factory, they will gladly tell you who to call for pricing. I've called them, they were very pleasant and helpful.
2 years ago I paid about 120K for the 32 foot GM (Kodiak) model. That was a good price, plus it's gone up since then, I would think the 28 footer would now be just north of 100K, but that's just my guess. I have been very happy with the overall quality of it - especially compared to the many horror stories I hear from owners of other brands. Pony Xpress is what I consider a commercial grade motorhome. You get what you pay for. The longer I have it, the more happy I am that I paid more up front and didn't get a cheapo, problem filled one.
The front seats in the Kodiak version of the Pony Xpress don't rotate by the way.
, "coug_alum" wrote:
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Thanks for the responses.
A 2" drop is very reasonable. Up to, probably, 6" would be reasonable, to allow the front seats to swivel and still be comfortable. I could fab some 'short' ottomans.
I recognize that a lot of storage space would be lost. However, this would provide for a lower overall profile.
Someone mentioned the Navion. That is exactly the floor plan that I eluded to in my original post. However, the CCC works out to be about 500#, ridiculous.
I'd like a unit that is small enough so that I don't need a toad. This would require, in my estimation, less than 28' total length.
Given the acceptable minimal cab-floor drop, is there a Kodiak that meets these specs?
Thanks.
, "jeffreyalbertine" wrote:
I have a Pony Xpress that's on the Kodiak chassis. There is only a 2" drop from the coach floor to the cab. They offer it in a 20 foot model, but that doesn't include the cab, so with the cab it's 28 feet long. It'll haul 10,000 lbs, and it's a high quality unit in my opinion. http://silvercrowncoach.com (http://silvercrowncoach.com)
Jeff
, "grandriver125@" wrote:
Ron I think the Navion has a model like that but some call it a B+. It really is a C though.
Watch the video. http://www.winnebagoind.com/products/itasca/2009/navion-iq/ (http://www.winnebagoind.com/products/itasca/2009/navion-iq/)
Don
On 7-Jul-08, at 2:09 PM, Ron Hall wrote:
I do not think there is a recent class C that does not have a drop
Title: Re: Shortest Kodiak
Post by: Coug_alum on July 10, 2008, 04:27:29 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 1389 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/supercrvgroup/conversations/messages/1389)I found this: http://www.xplorermotorhome.com/chevy5500.html (http://www.xplorermotorhome.com/chevy5500.html)