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2010 Jayco Seneca 35gs

Yahoo Message Number: 9646
Hello Everyone,

I am new to this group and joined because I will possibly be buying a 2010 Jayco Seneca 35gs, and I have some questions for you before I buy it.
1. The dealer is offering the coach for $100,000. Is this a good price?
2. Are there any problems with Jayco or the Chevrolet Duramax engine
that I should be aware of?
3. How does the dump system work? I noticed that the hose seems to
run through a black piece under the coach. Is it easy to dump?
4. While reading other forums, I noticed a lot of posts about 2006-7
models having sway and rocking problems. Did Jayco or Chevy fix
this before the 2010 model came out? I didn't notice a problem
when I test drove this motorhome.

I noticed the Jayco when I went to see a Class A gas this dealer had. I currently own a 2007 Itasca Navion and am looking for something bigger. I drove the Class A and know it would take some getting used to for me, but I could do it. When I drove the Jayco, I had no problem at all and it just seemed to fit what I am used to. In fact, it is somewhat easier for me to drive than the Navion. This brings me to my final question. Is the price difference (2012 Class A gas= $88,000 vs
2010 Jayco Seneca 35gs= $100,000) worth it?

Thank you for your help. I hope to learn a lot in this forum.

Ceilidh

Re: 2010 Jayco Seneca 35gs

Reply #1 –
Yahoo Message Number: 9647
Welcome to Kodiak Chassis Class C Motorhomes.
I will try to answer your questions.
1. Price seems high. But if you are trading in. How much you owe is what counts.
2. Overall the GM Duramax engine has been a good combination. Problems have come with finding a good place to get it serviced. Similar problems arise with a class A.
3. Maybe a Jayco owner will answer this question.
4. Problem with handling had to do with Jayco ordering wrong springs for the size of MH. Many were repaired by Jayco. Others, owners did upgrades.

A 2010 model could have a 2008 or 2009 chassis under it. Production ended for the Kodiak chassis in July of 2009.
Best
Ron Hall

Re: 2010 Jayco Seneca 35gs

Reply #2 –
Yahoo Message Number: 9648
We paid ninety nine five for a 35 GS 08 in 2010 and drove 1800 miles round trip to pick it up. Ours dumps pretty much like all. Does have black tank wash which is great. The dump handles are in the bay so easy access.

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Subject: [KodiakChassisClassC] 2010 Jayco Seneca 35gs

Hello Everyone,

 I am new to this group and joined because I will possibly be buying a 2010 Jayco Seneca 35gs, and I have some questions for you before I buy it.
 1. The dealer is offering the coach for $100,000. Is this a good price?
 2. Are there any problems with Jayco or the Chevrolet Duramax engine
 that I should be aware of?
 3. How does the dump system work? I noticed that the hose seems to
 run through a black piece under the coach. Is it easy to dump?
 4. While reading other forums, I noticed a lot of posts about 2006-7
 models having sway and rocking problems. Did Jayco or Chevy fix
 this before the 2010 model came out? I didn't notice a problem
 when I test drove this motorhome.

 I noticed the Jayco when I went to see a Class A gas this dealer had. I currently own a 2007 Itasca Navion and am looking for something bigger. I drove the Class A and know it would take some getting used to for me, but I could do it. When I drove the Jayco, I had no problem at all and it just seemed to fit what I am used to. In fact, it is somewhat easier for me to drive than the Navion. This brings me to my final question. Is the price difference (2012 Class A gas= $88,000 vs
 2010 Jayco Seneca 35gs= $100,000) worth it?

 Thank you for your help. I hope to learn a lot in this forum.

 Ceilidh

Re: 2010 Jayco Seneca 35gs

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Yahoo Message Number: 9649
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    Welcome Ceilidh

    3) How does the dump system work? I noticed that the hose seems to

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    run through a black piece under the coach. Is it easy to dump?


    The Jayco Black Water Handling is similar to other coaches.

    0. If you have a "tank flush" connector (most do) set up a hose to provide clean water while dumping. (I use a Y join at the tap to make sure I have two connections) Don't turn this hose on until the Black tank is draining, and shut it off before you close the Black tank Drain)

    1. Make sure the unit is as level as possible to aid with drainage.

    2. Attach the adapter to the flexible sewer hose and secure it with a clamp.

    3. Remove the dust cap and attach the adapter onto the drain pipe.

    4. Turn the adapter 10° to lock it onto the pegs on the drain pipe.

    5. Place the other end of the hose into an approved sewer system. (A 90 degree elbow with multiple size connections is a help here. As is carrying a donut seal to help adapt to damaged or threadless sewer systems.)

    6. Open the black tank termination valve to empty the black tank.

    7. Open the gray tank termination valve to empty the gray tank, utilizing the water to rinse the flexible hose..

    I use EZ connectors because they are very heavy duty hoses, and since the hose is semi permanent the fact that the connectors spin is great to keep the hose from stresses and kinking. The best part is that the EZ Connectors fit in the storage pipe, with a hose cap!In this shot you can see how the EZ Connector fits in the storage pipe with a Valterra hose cap, then the pipe end screws on to hold everything in place.

    Hose in storage tube

    Here is the connection to the Rig

    Final Set Up

    I should probably mention that some folks have problems with the readings in their tanks - I find that if you use the tank sanitation procedures and flush with Baking soda that cleans it up. Also after you flush is a great time to add a little Campa Chem to your black water tank. And we tend to put a little EnviroClean in every drain.

    That is about it.

    Kevin

    Kevin (Real) McCoy [KF5FUZ / WQJE447]
    ("Roscoe Ventura" Jayco Seneca HD SS 34 Diesel 2006; "Toad" Jeep Wrangler Unlimited 2007)

    Re: 2010 Jayco Seneca 35gs

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    Yahoo Message Number: 9650
    Ceilidh a couple more thoughts

    To add to what Ron said on price. An aid to negotiation is to use the NADA guide. Better than the blue book wrt motorhomes. Alternatively the reviews from RV.ORG will also give you a similar feeling of price given year and condition of vehicle, and what a surprise... are exactly what you get from NADA.

    Stability and Sway: Many folks have tried many things. Several of these work, but vary tremendously in price. There are several historical discussions - so I will not review them here. Stabilizers, Springs, Shocks, Air Bags, and even Tires are among the list of solutions that have been tried. Ron would probably be a good source for a summary when you get serious, or reading the historical notes might lead you to an answer.

    Kevin

     

    Re: 2010 Jayco Seneca 35gs

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    Yahoo Message Number: 9651
    welcome Ceilidh,

    our first seneca was a 2007 33ss bought used from a stealer in early 09
    for $75,000.00, it had the 1500 lb spring package, sold it to different
    stealer in late 09 for break even. (75,000.00)

    in april 2010 we bought a new 2010 seneca 36fk for $114,000.00.

    2007 had the 15k springs, in 2008 they came with the 19k springs and
    then in 2010 jayco added helwig helper spring to the 19k springs. i
    thought at the time the ride on my 2010 was very good.

    whats lacking on all the senecas is gcvwr. loaded our 2010 tipped the
    scales close to 23,000 lbs which left 3000 to hang on the back end. with
    our aluminum open trailer (1460lbs) our two wheelers at 670lbs each we
    were near the rated gcvwr. lots here are towing enclosed trailers with
    the dmax and even though they are over weight they are having no
    problems.

    we traded our 2010 seneca a year later in may of 2011 to a fellow from
    las vegas that had a 2008 haulmark 3303ts with twin screw tandem axles
    built on a freightliner columbia 120. when i said earlier that the ride
    of the 2010 seneca was very good, this ride is much much better.

    when we did the trade last may for our haulmark, the seller came up with
    a price difference of $65,000.00 and when i used nada to compare the two
    the low book price at that time for the seneca 2010 fs (nada dosen't
    list the fk model) was $103,000.00 and the low book for the haulmark was
    more than the 65k difference. ( today the difference is 63k)

    low book today for your 35gs is $92020.00 and i fell you should be able
    to buy it for less than that.

    the waste dump you talk about is as good or better than what i have now
    because everything is there all ready to dump all you have to do pull
    out the hose and open the valves. the draw back is ground clearance.

    the water station for city water, country fill, sanitize etc. on the
    seneca is much nicer than what i have on my haulmark.

    as Ron mentioned getting service seems to be a problem for some. we
    never needed service on our 2007 and any work done on our 2010 was
    during the warranty period so that may have made a difference because
    the medium duty truck division cant say no to a warranty issue, at least
    thats what the service rep told me.

    the in dash stereo/navagition/rear camera.......... maygnadyne... i
    think it was, it's a very poor radio. to call it a stereo is a streach.
    "surround sound" lmao!!!!

    turn the nav on and your rear view goes by by. i ended up adding a
    monitor that cliped onto the rear view mirror.

    don


    , "mceilidhb"
    wrote:
    Quote
    Hello Everyone,

    I am new to this group and joined because I will possibly be buying a
    2010 Jayco Seneca 35gs, and I have some questions for you before I buy
    it.

    Quote
    1. The dealer is offering the coach for $100,000. Is this a good
    price?

    Quote
    2. Are there any problems with Jayco or the Chevrolet Duramax engine
    that I should be aware of?
    3. How does the dump system work? I noticed that the hose seems to
    run through a black piece under the coach. Is it easy to dump?
    4. While reading other forums, I noticed a lot of posts about 2006-7
    models having sway and rocking problems. Did Jayco or Chevy fix
    this before the 2010 model came out? I didn't notice a problem
    when I test drove this motorhome.

    I noticed the Jayco when I went to see a Class A gas this dealer had.
    I currently own a 2007 Itasca Navion and am looking for something
    bigger. I drove the Class A and know it would take some getting used to
    for me, but I could do it. When I drove the Jayco, I had no problem at
    all and it just seemed to fit what I am used to. In fact, it is somewhat
    easier for me to drive than the Navion. This brings me to my final
    question. Is the price difference (2012 Class A gas= $88,000 vs