2013 SENECA News Flash August 23, 2012, 12:26:51 pm Yahoo Message Number: 9702Just returned from our dealer after looking at 2013 SENECA. It is now being built on the bigger Freightliner Chassis as was used for the EMBARK (22.5 tires and all) It appears that the EMBARK is bye-bye. The EMBARK is no longer on the JAYCO website for 2013 as well. They are now producing 4 SENECA floor plans and have one very similar to the 35GS it is now a 37TS (triple slide).Dave Quote Selected
Re: 2013 SENECA News Flash Reply #1 – August 23, 2012, 12:56:16 pm Yahoo Message Number: 9703The new Seneca is built on the BABY Freightliner M2 chassis. 26,000# GVWR / 33,000# GCWRThe Embark was on the bigger Freightliner M2 Chassis 33,000# GVWR 53,000# GCWRTHERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE TWO!!!I really wish they made a shorter (like real 36') version of the Embark - its what I want in GVWR / GCWR for towing a trailer.My Kodiak has the same towing capacity as the new Freightliner based Seneca......7,000#s But then again the old Kodiak based Senecas had about a 3,000# capacity.Be well, ~Victor - KI6IMKodiak Diesel Dutchmen 34H BunkhouseFrom: David Sparke To: KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.comSent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 9:26 AMSubject: [KodiakChassisClassC] 2013 SENECA News FlashJust returned from our dealer after looking at 2013 SENECA. It is now being built on the bigger Freightliner Chassis as was used for the EMBARK (22.5 tires and all) It appears that the EMBARK is bye-bye. The EMBARK is no longer on the JAYCO website for 2013 as well. They are now producing 4 SENECA floor plans and have one very similar to the 35GS it is now a 37TS (triple slide).Dave Quote Selected
Re: 2013 SENECA News Flash Reply #2 – August 23, 2012, 01:11:44 pm Yahoo Message Number: 9704Just passed on what the dealer said. He said it was on the bigger chassis. I do know that the original Freightliner SENECA had 19.5 tires, this one has 22.5. ?? From: KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor BurnsSent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 12:56 PMTo: KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [KodiakChassisClassC] 2013 SENECA News FlashThe new Seneca is built on the BABY Freightliner M2 chassis. 26,000# GVWR / 33,000# GCWRThe Embark was on the bigger Freightliner M2 Chassis 33,000# GVWR 53,000# GCWRTHERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE TWO!!!I really wish they made a shorter (like real 36') version of the Embark - its what I want in GVWR / GCWR for towing a trailer.My Kodiak has the same towing capacity as the new Freightliner based Seneca......7,000#s But then again the old Kodiak based Senecas had about a 3,000# capacity.Be well, ~Victor - KI6IMKodiak Diesel Dutchmen 34H BunkhousecenterFrom: David Sparke mnsprk@...>To:KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.comSent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 9:26 AMSubject: [KodiakChassisClassC] 2013 SENECA News FlashJust returned from our dealer after looking at 2013 SENECA. It is now being built on the bigger Freightliner Chassis as was used for the EMBARK (22.5 tires and all) It appears that the EMBARK is bye-bye. The EMBARK is no longer on the JAYCO website for 2013 as well. They are now producing 4 SENECA floor plans and have one very similar to the 35GS it is now a 37TS (triple slide).Dave Quote Selected
Re: 2013 SENECA News Flash Reply #3 – August 24, 2012, 08:04:17 pm Yahoo Message Number: 9705Victor, kudo's I just heard back from a "friend" at JAYCO and what they did was upgrade to22.5 tires and they also added air ride suspension on the rear. (that is not yet reflected in the specs) He actually sent me the spec sheet and it is 25,500 and 33,000. The fellow at the dealership was incorrect. DaveFrom: KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor BurnsSent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 12:56 PMTo: KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [KodiakChassisClassC] 2013 SENECA News FlashThe new Seneca is built on the BABY Freightliner M2 chassis. 26,000# GVWR / 33,000# GCWRThe Embark was on the bigger Freightliner M2 Chassis 33,000# GVWR 53,000# GCWRTHERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE TWO!!!I really wish they made a shorter (like real 36') version of the Embark - its what I want in GVWR / GCWR for towing a trailer.My Kodiak has the same towing capacity as the new Freightliner based Seneca......7,000#s But then again the old Kodiak based Senecas had about a 3,000# capacity.Be well, ~Victor - KI6IMKodiak Diesel Dutchmen 34H BunkhousecenterFrom: David Sparke mnsprk@...>To:KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.comSent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 9:26 AMSubject: [KodiakChassisClassC] 2013 SENECA News FlashJust returned from our dealer after looking at 2013 SENECA. It is now being built on the bigger Freightliner Chassis as was used for the EMBARK (22.5 tires and all) It appears that the EMBARK is bye-bye. The EMBARK is no longer on the JAYCO website for 2013 as well. They are now producing 4 SENECA floor plans and have one very similar to the 35GS it is now a 37TS (triple slide).Dave Quote Selected
Re: 2013 SENECA News Flash Reply #4 – August 24, 2012, 08:11:39 pm Yahoo Message Number: 9706Roger that!I had already downloaded the brochure a few days before these emails started so I was on top of it as I am looking for a heavier duty coach - but prefer not longer than 36' and prefer more like 34'That is why the Dynamax looks good s they make a 34' - but the big bunkhouse 39' Embark would be great for us, I dont want to miss out getting into some of the smaller camping spots.Be well, ~Victor - KI6IMKodiak Diesel Dutchmen 34H BunkhouseFrom: David Sparke To: KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.comSent: Friday, August 24, 2012 5:04 PMSubject: RE: [KodiakChassisClassC] 2013 SENECA News FlashVictor, kudo's I just heard back from a "friend" at JAYCO and what they did was upgrade to22.5 tires and they also added air ride suspension on the rear. (that is not yet reflected in the specs) He actually sent me the spec sheet and it is 25,500 and 33,000. The fellow at the dealership was incorrect. DaveFrom: KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor BurnsSent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 12:56 PMTo: KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [KodiakChassisClassC] 2013 SENECA News FlashThe new Seneca is built on the BABY Freightliner M2 chassis. 26,000# GVWR / 33,000# GCWRThe Embark was on the bigger Freightliner M2 Chassis 33,000# GVWR 53,000# GCWRTHERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE TWO!!!I really wish they made a shorter (like real 36') version of the Embark - its what I want in GVWR / GCWR for towing a trailer.My Kodiak has the same towing capacity as the new Freightliner based Seneca......7,000#s But then again the old Kodiak based Senecas had about a 3,000# capacity.Be well, ~Victor - KI6IMKodiak Diesel Dutchmen 34H BunkhousecenterFrom: David Sparke mnsprk@...>To:KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.comSent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 9:26 AMSubject: [KodiakChassisClassC] 2013 SENECA News FlashJust returned from our dealer after looking at 2013 SENECA. It is now being built on the bigger Freightliner Chassis as was used for the EMBARK (22.5 tires and all) It appears that the EMBARK is bye-bye. The EMBARK is no longer on the JAYCO website for 2013 as well. They are now producing 4 SENECA floor plans and have one very similar to the 35GS it is now a 37TS (triple slide).Dave Quote Selected
Re: 2013 SENECA News Flash Reply #5 – August 24, 2012, 08:49:36 pm Yahoo Message Number: 9707But unfortunately the EMBARK is dead!!! That was part of my conversation with JAYCO as well.From: KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor BurnsSent: Friday, August 24, 2012 8:12 PMTo: KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [KodiakChassisClassC] 2013 SENECA News FlashRoger that!I had already downloaded the brochure a few days before these emails started so I was on top of it as I am looking for a heavier duty coach - but prefer not longer than 36' and prefer more like 34'That is why the Dynamax looks good s they make a 34' - but the big bunkhouse 39' Embark would be great for us, I dont want to miss out getting into some of the smaller camping spots.Be well, ~Victor - KI6IMKodiak Diesel Dutchmen 34H BunkhousecenterFrom: David Sparke mnsprk@...>To:KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.comSent: Friday, August 24, 2012 5:04 PMSubject: RE: [KodiakChassisClassC] 2013 SENECA News FlashVictor, kudo's I just heard back from a "friend" at JAYCO and what they did was upgrade to22.5 tires and they also added air ride suspension on the rear. (that is not yet reflected in the specs) He actually sent me the spec sheet and it is 25,500 and 33,000. The fellow at the dealership was incorrect. DaveFrom:KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor BurnsSent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 12:56 PMTo:KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [KodiakChassisClassC] 2013 SENECA News FlashThe new Seneca is built on the BABY Freightliner M2 chassis. 26,000# GVWR / 33,000# GCWRThe Embark was on the bigger Freightliner M2 Chassis 33,000# GVWR 53,000# GCWRTHERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE TWO!!!I really wish they made a shorter (like real 36') version of the Embark - its what I want in GVWR / GCWR for towing a trailer.My Kodiak has the same towing capacity as the new Freightliner based Seneca......7,000#s But then again the old Kodiak based Senecas had about a 3,000# capacity.Be well, ~Victor - KI6IMKodiak Diesel Dutchmen 34H BunkhousecenterFrom: David Sparke mnsprk@...>To:KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.comSent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 9:26 AMSubject: [KodiakChassisClassC] 2013 SENECA News FlashJust returned from our dealer after looking at 2013 SENECA. It is now being built on the bigger Freightliner Chassis as was used for the EMBARK (22.5 tires and all) It appears that the EMBARK is bye-bye. The EMBARK is no longer on the JAYCO website for 2013 as well. They are now producing 4 SENECA floor plans and have one very similar to the 35GS it is now a 37TS (triple slide).Dave Quote Selected
Re: 2013 SENECA News Flash Reply #6 – August 24, 2012, 10:27:59 pm Yahoo Message Number: 9708There are plenty of 2011 and 2012 ones around and might snag one? ;-) Even though its bigger than I really want.Be well, ~Victor - KI6IMKodiak Diesel Dutchmen 34H Bunkhouse [Embark coming?]From: David Sparke To: KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.comSent: Friday, August 24, 2012 5:49 PMSubject: RE: [KodiakChassisClassC] 2013 SENECA News FlashBut unfortunately the EMBARK is dead!!! That was part of my conversation with JAYCO as well.From: KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor BurnsSent: Friday, August 24, 2012 8:12 PMTo: KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [KodiakChassisClassC] 2013 SENECA News FlashRoger that!I had already downloaded the brochure a few days before these emails started so I was on top of it as I am looking for a heavier duty coach - but prefer not longer than 36' and prefer more like 34'That is why the Dynamax looks good s they make a 34' - but the big bunkhouse 39' Embark would be great for us, I dont want to miss out getting into some of the smaller camping spots.Be well, ~Victor - KI6IMKodiak Diesel Dutchmen 34H BunkhousecenterFrom: David Sparke mnsprk@...>To:KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.comSent: Friday, August 24, 2012 5:04 PMSubject: RE: [KodiakChassisClassC] 2013 SENECA News FlashVictor, kudo's I just heard back from a "friend" at JAYCO and what they did was upgrade to22.5 tires and they also added air ride suspension on the rear. (that is not yet reflected in the specs) He actually sent me the spec sheet and it is 25,500 and 33,000. The fellow at the dealership was incorrect. DaveFrom:KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor BurnsSent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 12:56 PMTo:KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [KodiakChassisClassC] 2013 SENECA News FlashThe new Seneca is built on the BABY Freightliner M2 chassis. 26,000# GVWR / 33,000# GCWRThe Embark was on the bigger Freightliner M2 Chassis 33,000# GVWR 53,000# GCWRTHERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE TWO!!!I really wish they made a shorter (like real 36') version of the Embark - its what I want in GVWR / GCWR for towing a trailer.My Kodiak has the same towing capacity as the new Freightliner based Seneca......7,000#s But then again the old Kodiak based Senecas had about a 3,000# capacity.Be well, ~Victor - KI6IMKodiak Diesel Dutchmen 34H BunkhousecenterFrom: David Sparke mnsprk@...>To:KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.comSent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 9:26 AMSubject: [KodiakChassisClassC] 2013 SENECA News FlashJust returned from our dealer after looking at 2013 SENECA. It is now being built on the bigger Freightliner Chassis as was used for the EMBARK (22.5 tires and all) It appears that the EMBARK is bye-bye. The EMBARK is no longer on the JAYCO website for 2013 as well. They are now producing 4 SENECA floor plans and have one very similar to the 35GS it is now a 37TS (triple slide).Dave Quote Selected
Re: 2013 SENECA News Flash Reply #7 – August 24, 2012, 10:57:56 pm Yahoo Message Number: 9709Love the Seneca but unfortunately we are having to give ours up. I can no longer drive much over an hour without lost of use of hands due to diabetic issues and my wife found out this week her pain is from severe Osteopenia and she doesn't need to be driving long periods. Golden years!!From: Victor Burns Sender: KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.comDate: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 17:11:37 -0700 (PDT)To: KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.comReplyTo: KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [KodiakChassisClassC] 2013 SENECA News FlashRoger that!I had already downloaded the brochure a few days before these emails started so I was on top of it as I am looking for a heavier duty coach - but prefer not longer than 36' and prefer more like 34'That is why the Dynamax looks good s they make a 34' - but the big bunkhouse 39' Embark would be great for us, I dont want to miss out getting into some of the smaller camping spots.Be well, ~Victor - KI6IMKodiak Diesel Dutchmen 34H BunkhouseFrom: David Sparke To: KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.comSent: Friday, August 24, 2012 5:04 PMSubject: RE: [KodiakChassisClassC] 2013 SENECA News FlashVictor, kudo's I just heard back from a "friend" at JAYCO and what they did was upgrade to22.5 tires and they also added air ride suspension on the rear. (that is not yet reflected in the specs) He actually sent me the spec sheet and it is 25,500 and 33,000. The fellow at the dealership was incorrect. DaveFrom: KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor BurnsSent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 12:56 PMTo: KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [KodiakChassisClassC] 2013 SENECA News FlashThe new Seneca is built on the BABY Freightliner M2 chassis. 26,000# GVWR / 33,000# GCWRThe Embark was on the bigger Freightliner M2 Chassis 33,000# GVWR 53,000# GCWRTHERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE TWO!!!I really wish they made a shorter (like real 36') version of the Embark - its what I want in GVWR / GCWR for towing a trailer.My Kodiak has the same towing capacity as the new Freightliner based Seneca......7,000#s But then again the old Kodiak based Senecas had about a 3,000# capacity.Be well, ~Victor - KI6IMKodiak Diesel Dutchmen 34H BunkhousecenterFrom: David Sparke mnsprk@...>To:KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.comSent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 9:26 AMSubject: [KodiakChassisClassC] 2013 SENECA News FlashJust returned from our dealer after looking at 2013 SENECA. It is now being built on the bigger Freightliner Chassis as was used for the EMBARK (22.5 tires and all) It appears that the EMBARK is bye-bye. The EMBARK is no longer on the JAYCO website for 2013 as well. They are now producing 4 SENECA floor plans and have one very similar to the 35GS it is now a 37TS (triple slide).Dave Quote Selected
Re: 2013 SENECA News Flash Reply #8 – August 25, 2012, 06:31:24 am Yahoo Message Number: 9710Tried to reply to this thread yesterday. Got nothing but errors. I someone already replied with the same info. Yahoo claims it was my IP or my computer. Not!. Looks like things are working now.BestRon Hall Quote Selected