Super C RVs => SuperC Info and Discussions => Topic started by: smokie39157 on November 13, 2007, 03:21:30 pm
Title: Jayco Leveler fix...Seneca and Greyhawk
Post by: smokie39157 on November 13, 2007, 03:21:30 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 291 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/supercrvgroup/conversations/messages/291)Thanks for all the replies to my first post. The biggest thing that I have disliked about the Greyhawk was that every time I cranked the MH in the driveway the DA.. levelers would dump.
I started doing some research and posted over on RV.net but never got a good answer. I got several suggestions, but most involved tracing down a circuit or wire until I found the correct wire. I knew somebody had figured this out, I just had to find the answer.
First of all....I am not advocating doing away with ANY safety feature. If anyone does this modification after reading this, YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN. It worked for me, but I am not telling you to do it, or that it will work. However........
I got a little help via email from a reliable source that allowed me to fix this problem. It seems that Jayco, like other companies, put out service bulletins on an as needed basis. Jayco calls these "Product Improvement" notices, and they send them to dealers.
Jayco PI number P106-003 (dated May 07 I think) pertains to this very problem and provides a fix that is suppose to be done via a dealer and you have to sign a "Confirmation of Removal" form after the fix.
Now, before I go on, remember that this only does away ( on MY Greyhawk) with the levelers "not dumping" when you go to the the run or crank position. You still have the "park brake release" and the "placing in gear" actions that will still dump the levelers to keep you from driving off with them down. Now, I suppose an IDIOT could jump in, crank the engine, let off the park brake, throw it in gear and gas it(all within a couple of seconds) and manage to tear up the levelers.
The fix: Boy, this is a real tuffy....(grin)
Under the kick panel on the drivers side by your left foot (it is black plastic on mine) is the usual bunch of wires, fuses, etc you find in this area on most vehicles.
In among all the stuff you find you will see a black (mine was black) standard looking 30 AMP relay. I think it only has two wires attached to it, but I can't remember for sure. Anyway, on the "number 30" leg (or terminal) of the relay there is a green wire attached. Pull this green wire off, cut off the female slide terminal on the end of the green wire and re-install (crimp on) a round 1/4 inch ring terminal. Just below (in the same area) you will see a factory GM ground point (screw), clean the area with sand paper if you want to (mine worked as it was, no sanding) and attach the green wire. I think the ground point screw is 10mm.
Bingo...you are done and no longer have the levelers dump with the key on only.
As I said, you are on your own doing this. It worked for me. I suggest you test everything several times afterwards to make sure everything still works as you expect it to. My Greyhawk will still dump the levelers when I release the park brake or put the transmission in gear.
I do not have my spell check on this computer...sorry if any mistakes are found.
Mike
Title: Re: Jayco Leveler fix...Seneca and Greyhawk
Post by: smokie39157 on November 13, 2007, 03:27:38 pm
Yahoo Message Number: 292 (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/supercrvgroup/conversations/messages/292)I forgot to mention that this PI notice was for units built before April 26, 2007, or at least that is what I was told. It was for Seneca units with Power Gear hydraulic levelers. It worked on my Greyhawk with the same levelers.
, "smokie39157" wrote:
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Thanks for all the replies to my first post. The biggest thing that I have disliked about the Greyhawk was that every time I cranked the MH in the driveway the DA.. levelers would dump.
I started doing some research and posted over on RV.net but never got a good answer. I got several suggestions, but most involved tracing down a circuit or wire until I found the correct wire. I knew somebody had figured this out, I just had to find the answer.
First of all....I am not advocating doing away with ANY safety feature. If anyone does this modification after reading this, YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN. It worked for me, but I am not telling you to do it, or that it will work. However........
I got a little help via email from a reliable source that allowed me to fix this problem. It seems that Jayco, like other companies, put out service bulletins on an as needed basis. Jayco calls these "Product Improvement" notices, and they send them to dealers.
Jayco PI number P106-003 (dated May 07 I think) pertains to this very problem and provides a fix that is suppose to be done via a dealer and you have to sign a "Confirmation of Removal" form after the fix.
Now, before I go on, remember that this only does away ( on MY Greyhawk) with the levelers "not dumping" when you go to the the run or crank position. You still have the "park brake release" and the "placing in gear" actions that will still dump the levelers to keep you from driving off with them down. Now, I suppose an IDIOT could jump in, crank the engine, let off the park brake, throw it in gear and gas it(all within a couple of seconds) and manage to tear up the levelers.
The fix: Boy, this is a real tuffy....(grin)
Under the kick panel on the drivers side by your left foot (it is black plastic on mine) is the usual bunch of wires, fuses, etc you find in this area on most vehicles.
In among all the stuff you find you will see a black (mine was
black)
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standard looking 30 AMP relay. I think it only has two wires attached to it, but I can't remember for sure. Anyway, on the "number 30" leg (or terminal) of the relay there is a green wire attached. Pull this green wire off, cut off the female slide terminal on the end of the green wire and re-install (crimp on) a round 1/4 inch ring terminal. Just below (in the same area) you will see a factory GM ground point (screw), clean the area with sand paper if you want to (mine worked as it was, no sanding) and attach the green wire. I think the ground point screw is 10mm.
Bingo...you are done and no longer have the levelers dump with the key on only.
As I said, you are on your own doing this. It worked for me. I suggest you test everything several times afterwards to make sure everything still works as you expect it to. My Greyhawk will still dump the levelers when I release the park brake or put the transmission in gear.
I do not have my spell check on this computer...sorry if any mistakes
Title: Re: Jayco Leveler fix...Seneca and Greyhawk
Post by: Dmyhre943 on November 13, 2007, 03:42:06 pm