Engine problems in Wyoming August 28, 2008, 02:40:59 pm Yahoo Message Number: 1597Yesterday I was 10 miles from Yellowstone Park destined to fly fish until I have to go back to work adjusting storm damage, when my engine shut down completely. The "low coolant" warning light went on, then the engine recheck light , then the engine shutdown warning, plus an alarm buzzer.The GMC certified service center in Cody, WY refused to work on the coach, telling the warranty hotline that their shop "wasn't big enough" which was an outright lie. The shop was empty except for 4 vehicles, they had 35 ft stalls 10' wide, and the doors were well oversized....and was listed in the warranty dealer manual. The Billings, MT shop told me that Webster Motors in Cody do not like to work on vehicles unless they sold the vehicle to one of their customers. They work on GMC oilfield trucks all the time. We should get a list of all these shops to GMC and get them unpublished.Anyway, that is another story... the coach was towed to Billings, MT, 120 miles distance, and this morning the shop showed me where a large wiring bundle had been rubbing against an aluminum casting with a sharp edge. The wiring insulation had worn off 4 wires. They are test driving it as I write this, and hopefully will resolve the problem...Anyway, you may want to check the same wiring bundle.... I didn't get a photo, but you can't miss it. Facing the front of the engine, the bundle is on the left side on top of the engine, about 2" in diameter, and should be lying against a bright metal fitting with a sharp edge and pointed corner.DennyIt's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. Quote Selected
Re: Engine problems in Wyoming Reply #1 – August 28, 2008, 02:55:21 pm Yahoo Message Number: 1598QuoteAnyway, you may want to check the same wiring bundle.... I didn't get aphoto, but you can't miss it.Refresh my memory Denny, is yours a diesel? If it's a gas version I'llgo check mine this weekend.Sorry about the trouble. Your experience with finding a GM dealer towork on or do warranty work for the chassis is the same as mine. They'relisted in the book, but they don't really do it and GM could care less.Take care, Greg Quote Selected
Re: Engine problems in Wyoming Reply #2 – August 28, 2008, 03:44:07 pm Yahoo Message Number: 1599Sorry to hear about your problems. Sure wish GM would come out with agood list of places that will service our MH's.There are many common problems with the GM trucks. Both pickups andKodiak. One of them is the wires that are tie-wrapped to thealternator bracket. When I was trouble shooting my "Service BrakesSoon" problem it was one of the items on the list. Another is pin 17on one of the connectors. Also a ground connection at or near thebatteries. On the Diesel place they seem to mention the ice pickrepair to some of the connectors.There is a 8.1 section on Diesel place that has some of these repairsfor the gas model trucks too. Quote Selected
Re: Engine problems in Wyoming Reply #3 – August 28, 2008, 04:52:51 pm Yahoo Message Number: 1600Thanks, Greg, I forgot to mention... I have the diesel....Denny Quote Selected
Re: Engine problems in Wyoming Reply #4 – August 28, 2008, 08:40:01 pm Yahoo Message Number: 1603 Thanks for the heads-up ...finally getting to go on a short weekend trip so I'll check that out before I get started. Quote Selected
Re: Engine problems in Wyoming Reply #5 – September 01, 2008, 03:21:43 pm Yahoo Message Number: 1619-Do you remember the issue I had with the engine shutting down andthe issue is the egr valve that has a recall from GM. If you do notfix it you will have coolant in your cylinders. So if you areleaking coolant and cannot find where it is going that is the issueand needs to be fixed quickly. I am still at the Jayco ralley at thefactory and will return home next week. Dane-- In KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.comQuoteYesterday I was 10 miles from Yellowstone Park destined to fly fishuntil IQuotehave to go back to work adjusting storm damage, when my engine shutdown completely. The "low coolant" warning light went on, then theengine recheckQuotelight , then the engine shutdown warning, plus an alarm buzzer.The GMC certified service center in Cody, WY refused to work on thecoach, Quotetelling the warranty hotline that their shop "wasn't big enough"which was anQuoteoutright lie. The shop was empty except for 4 vehicles, they had35 ftQuotestalls 10' wide, and the doors were well oversized....and waslisted in theQuotewarranty dealer manual. The Billings, MT shop told me thatWebster Motors in CodyQuotedo not like to work on vehicles unless they sold the vehicle toone of theirQuotecustomers. They work on GMC oilfield trucks all the time. Weshould get aQuotelist of all these shops to GMC and get them unpublished.Anyway, that is another story... the coach was towed to Billings, MT, 120Quotemiles distance, and this morning the shop showed me where a largewiring bundleQuotehad been rubbing against an aluminum casting with a sharp edge.The wiringQuoteinsulation had worn off 4 wires. They are test driving it as Iwrite this, Quoteand hopefully will resolve the problem...Anyway, you may want to check the same wiring bundle.... I didn'tget aQuotephoto, but you can't miss it. Facing the front of the engine, thebundle is onQuotethe left side on top of the engine, about 2" in diameter, andshould be lyingQuoteagainst a bright metal fitting with a sharp edge and pointed corner.DennyIt's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Findyour travel Quote Selected
Re: Engine problems in Wyoming Reply #6 – September 01, 2008, 05:40:32 pm Yahoo Message Number: 1622Thanks, Dane.... I have the duramax diesel engine, and did not receive any recall notice. Did it only apply to the gas models?Denny Quote Selected
Re: Engine problems in Wyoming Reply #7 – September 01, 2008, 10:16:09 pm Yahoo Message Number: 1623, "dane.goodwin" wrote:Quote-Do you remember the issue I had with the engine shutting down andthe issue is the egr valve that has a recall from GM. If you do notfix it you will have coolant in your cylinders. So if you areleaking coolant and cannot find where it is going that is the issueand needs to be fixed quickly. I am still at the Jayco ralley at thefactory and will return home next week. DaneI had this problem as well, although it didn't cause the engine to shutdown, nor did I receive a recall. My symptom was that I was notgetting any cabin heat. Apparently exhaust gasses got into the heatercircuit and blocked any water from flowing through. It built up enoughpressure that they had to replace the heater core.I also experienced the 'no service' service in Cody, but at least I wasdrivable, so I went to the next service center along my route, whichwas Denver. Quote Selected
Re: Engine problems in Wyoming Reply #8 – September 02, 2008, 09:20:35 pm Yahoo Message Number: 1625 Was this with what year Kodiak's , diesael ?? I can't find the recall listed anywhere, to callChevy truck service center about it. Where is it listed or what number ?? Thanks for the helpjohninaz21 wrote: Quote Selected
Re: Engine problems in Wyoming Reply #9 – September 06, 2008, 05:12:39 pm Yahoo Message Number: 16342008 Seneca Kodiak 5500 and yes there is a recall on the egr valve.They need to be replaced. dane, Gary Myers wrote:QuoteWas this with what year Kodiak's , diesael ?? I can't find therecall listed anywhere, to callChevy truck service center about it. Where is it listed or whatnumber ?? Thanks for the helpjohninaz21 wrote:, "dane.goodwin"wrote:-Do you remember the issue I had with the engine shutting downand the issue is the egr valve that has a recall from GM. If you donot fix it you will have coolant in your cylinders. So if you areleaking coolant and cannot find where it is going that is theissue and needs to be fixed quickly. I am still at the Jayco ralleyat theQuotefactory and will return home next week. DaneI had this problem as well, although it didn't cause the engineto shutQuotedown, nor did I receive a recall. My symptom was that I was notgetting any cabin heat. Apparently exhaust gasses got into theheater circuit and blocked any water from flowing through. It built upenough pressure that they had to replace the heater core.I also experienced the 'no service' service in Cody, but at leastI wasQuotedrivable, so I went to the next service center along my route, which was Denver.-----QuoteNo virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG.Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.13/1642 - Release Date:8/29/2008 6:12 PM Quote Selected
Re: Engine problems in Wyoming Reply #10 – September 06, 2008, 06:27:43 pm Yahoo Message Number: 1636Denny it was on the 07 chassis with an issue with the EGR. It shouldbe replaced especially if loosing coolant. The dealerships have therecall and it was not sent to consumers. Dane Quote Selected
Re: Engine problems in Wyoming Reply #11 – September 07, 2008, 02:47:40 pm Yahoo Message Number: 1637Dane, I don't know what an EGR is...would it involve diesel as well as gas engines?Thanks, Denny Quote Selected
Re: Engine problems in Wyoming Reply #12 – September 10, 2008, 01:53:46 pm Yahoo Message Number: 1656It has to do with the emissions and only on the diesel. All generalmotors 5500 dealers should have the recall. Dane Quote Selected
Re: Engine problems in Wyoming Reply #13 – September 10, 2008, 02:32:03 pm Yahoo Message Number: 1657Great... thanks, Dane. I will check with a dealer.Denny Quote Selected