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Installed Tubular locks on Greyhawk

Yahoo Message Number: 2244
I recently installed 14 High Security Tubular Cam Locks on the
storage doors of my 07 Greyhawk 32SS. A friend of mine is a
locksmith and he ordered them for me from LSDA which is a company
that sells hardware to locksmiths. They are 1 1/8 inch locks and
come with everything you need to convert. I used the the cam from
the old locks and everything worked just fine. I only had to make a
couple of adjustments. The only safe way to adjust them is to take
the cam off and bend it in a vise just a little and try it again.

It took me about 2 hours to do all 14. After you figure out how to
set them up the first time, it is easy. I installed mine to rotate
only 1/4 turn and you have to lock it back (turn key back to lock) to
get the key out. You can set them up to allow the key to come out
when locked if you want that. These locks have over 100,000 key
combinations. Now I don't have to worry about the CH751 keys that so
many people have.

I did not replace the outside shower door and the outside
entertainment center locks, but I am going to check and see if I can
get 2 of these to work. Those two locks are only 5/8 inch, but I
think I can get one of these new locks in 5/8 and hopefully it will
work in the plastic doors.

The model number on these locks is UTCL 118#L56804 and they come with
2 keys each. As I said they are made by LSDA. They cost me $17.00
each and I don't know if this is a good price or not. They seem well
built and are polished nickel . I put a couple of pictures in the 07
Greyhawk 32SS picture folder.

Mike

Re: Installed Tubular locks on Greyhawk

Reply #1 –
Yahoo Message Number: 2245
Mike, I'm not up on the mechanics of tubular locks so this might be a dumb question. Were these 14 locks ordered so that they were keyed alike or do you now have 14 keys? I assume you don't have 14 different keys.

BTW, I decided to take a look on the net and I guess the tubular locks are safer because anything has to be better than 751. What I found indicated that they can be picked very easily though. There are several videos on the web showing how to pick them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tubular_pin_tumbler_lock

Don


On 10-Feb-09, at 7:09 PM, Mike wrote:

Re: Installed Tubular locks on Greyhawk

Reply #2 –
Yahoo Message Number: 2247
Don, they are all keyed alike and were ordered that way. Yes, these
locks can be drilled and locksmiths and pro thiefs can open them. My
friend says they have improved and are still much better than what
came on the Jayco. As we all know locks just keep honest people
honest. It is still easy to pry these doors open if a thief wants to
and doesn't care what he tears up. I feel a little better with these
locks and the "keys" just work a lot smoother and better. The old
keys were just a pain. The key would go in either way but would not
turn if it was not in the "right" way and at times I would have to
pull out or push in just a little on the key. This "aggrevation" had
as much to do with changing them as the security factor.

Mike

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Mike, I'm not up on the mechanics of tubular locks so this might be
a dumb question. Were these 14 locks ordered so that they were
keyed alike or do you now have 14 keys? I assume you don't have 14
different keys.

BTW, I decided to take a look on the net and I guess the tubular
locks are safer because anything has to be better than 751. What I
found indicated that they can be picked very easily though. There are
several videos on the web showing how to pick them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tubular_pin_tumbler_lock

Don

On 10-Feb-09, at 7:09 PM, Mike wrote:

I recently installed 14 High Security Tubular Cam Locks on the
storage doors of my 07 Greyhawk 32SS. A friend of mine is a
locksmith and he ordered them for me from LSDA which is a company
that sells hardware to locksmiths. They are 1 1/8 inch locks and
come with everything you need to convert. I used the the cam from
the old locks and everything worked just fine. I only had to make
a couple of adjustments. The only safe way to adjust them is to take
the cam off and bend it in a vise just a little and try it again.

It took me about 2 hours to do all 14. After you figure out how to
set them up the first time, it is easy. I installed mine to rotate
only 1/4 turn and you have to lock it back (turn key back to
lock) to

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get the key out. You can set them up to allow the key to come out
when locked if you want that. These locks have over 100,000 key
combinations. Now I don't have to worry about the CH751 keys that
so many people have.

I did not replace the outside shower door and the outside
entertainment center locks, but I am going to check and see if I
can get 2 of these to work. Those two locks are only 5/8 inch, but I
think I can get one of these new locks in 5/8 and hopefully it
will work in the plastic doors.

The model number on these locks is UTCL 118#L56804 and they come
with 2 keys each. As I said they are made by LSDA. They cost me $17.00
each and I don't know if this is a good price or not. They seem
well built and are polished nickel . I put a couple of pictures in the
07

Re: Installed Tubular locks on Greyhawk

Reply #3 –
Yahoo Message Number: 2248
Yes, existing keys can be a problem. I seem to automatically stick them in the right way now - but the fact that there are 456,776 #751's out there always bothers me.

I've been going to see if I can have them rekeyed. If they can be, I have a place that will do them (I think) at a reasonable price. We moved this past summer and when I bought 6 deadbolts (lots of doors) they easily keyed them alike and didn't charge. The guy who did it was really good. I plan to take one of the locks in to him and see if he can rekey. If he can, they will all come off and be rekeyed (the same, of course). My guess is that they will charge me about $5 each.

Don



On 10-Feb-09, at 9:20 PM, Mike wrote:

Re: Installed Tubular locks on Greyhawk

Reply #4 –
Yahoo Message Number: 2249

The latest tool in a thieves bag is the battery powered reciprocating saw, makes opening any door a piece of cake an locks obsolete.

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