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2007 vs 2008

Yahoo Message Number: 43
Hello all!

We do not yet have a Kodiak chassis MH but we are looking and
seriously considering a Jayco Seneca with the Duramax motor. We are
wondering if it would be best (abet more expensive) to wait for the
2008 chassis.

We're told the '08 will have 330hp, more torque and a 6 speed Allison
transmission. Actually, we don't understand the difference between
the 2007.5 emissions "stuff" and the 2008 emissions stuff. Is there
really a difference between the '07.5 and '08 motors? We are also
wondering which would provide the better fuel mileage.

What do you think? All opinions/advise would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Paul & Linda

Re: 2007 vs 2008

Reply #1
Yahoo Message Number: 44
I would want the 2007 with a pre 2007 motor. It's easy to spot one of
the post 2007 motors. They have a large flared tip on exhaust pipe.
There are some reports of 2007 model Jayco's with the six speed trans.
Unless there is a special feature that you want on 2008 models. Look
for a 2007 with early 2007 chassis.
Our 34' MH gets consistent 10+ mpg since crossing the 20,000 mile
mark. We stay close to 60 mph.

Re: 2007 vs 2008

Reply #2
Yahoo Message Number: 45
To support what Ron has stated, we have an 07 Greyhawk and it has a 6 speed. When we ordered it in February we were told it would have the 6 speed. The GM announcement of the 6 speed for the Kodiak as standard was made in Aug 06 so I guess they had a lot of 06 chassis to use (in 07 models) before the could get to the 6 speed units.

I have no doubt that the diesel gets much better mileage than the gassser. We are only getting about 8 and we have not towed our Tahoe yet. We bought a ScanGauge for the Greyhawk last weekend and it appears to be working well. It confirms the MPG we figured we were getting without holdups. All four of our extended weekend trips to date have been influenced by almost a one hour border crossing line up that has burned up fuel.

I also miss the exhaust brake that we had on our last two A Class diesels. If we buy again it will be a diesel unit - especially if the new Duramax 4.5 litre is available (about 300 hp and torque of 520) as it would be an improvement on our 8.1 Vortec and should get even better mileage. I don't expect to see these in MHs until 2010 though.

Don

Re: 2007 vs 2008

Reply #3
Yahoo Message Number: 46
, "kemper_mm"
wrote:
Quote
Hello all!

We do not yet have a Kodiak chassis MH but we are looking and
seriously considering a Jayco Seneca with the Duramax motor. We are
wondering if it would be best (abet more expensive) to wait for the
2008 chassis.

We're told the '08 will have 330hp, more torque and a 6 speed Allison
transmission. Actually, we don't understand the difference between
the 2007.5 emissions "stuff" and the 2008 emissions stuff. Is there
really a difference between the '07.5 and '08 motors? We are also
wondering which would provide the better fuel mileage.

What do you think? All opinions/advise would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Paul & Linda

Thanks guys. I wonder if there are still early 2007 chassis
available? I'll check out the exhaust pipes on the ones I see at the
dealers.

Paul

Re: 2007 vs 2008

Reply #4
Yahoo Message Number: 47
Paul ~

I also think that the Duramax w/o all the extra emission controls
will get slightly better mileage. We have a 43SS and now get 10+ MPG
at 55-60 MPH. ( after the Duramax was broken in after 10,000 miles)

The only real downside to the 2007 IMO is the Entertainment Center.
In my 2006 the television was centered which allowed me to retrofit a
32" Sony Bravia HD flat screen in place of the smaller CRT model.

In 2007 they moved the TV to the passenger side limiting the screen
size and destroying any hope of maintaining a " surround" sound
field. In 2008, after many complaints, Jayco came to their senses
and placed it back in the middle and did a nice job of hiding the
front speakers.

Bottom line, if having a Home Theater experience on the road is
important to you, as it is to me, then this should be a big
consideration. If not, then the 2007 would get my vote.

Craig

, "kemper_mm"
wrote:
Quote
Hello all!

We do not yet have a Kodiak chassis MH but we are looking and
seriously considering a Jayco Seneca with the Duramax motor. We are
wondering if it would be best (abet more expensive) to wait for the
2008 chassis.

We're told the '08 will have 330hp, more torque and a 6 speed
Allison

Re: 2007 vs 2008

Reply #5
Yahoo Message Number: 49
, "Craig Davis"
wrote:
Quote
Paul ~

I also think that the Duramax w/o all the extra emission controls
will get slightly better mileage. We have a 43SS and now get 10+ MPG
at 55-60 MPH. ( after the Duramax was broken in after 10,000 miles)

The only real downside to the 2007 IMO is the Entertainment Center.
In my 2006 the television was centered which allowed me to retrofit a
32" Sony Bravia HD flat screen in place of the smaller CRT model.

In 2007 they moved the TV to the passenger side limiting the screen
size and destroying any hope of maintaining a " surround" sound
field. In 2008, after many complaints, Jayco came to their senses
and placed it back in the middle and did a nice job of hiding the
front speakers.

Bottom line, if having a Home Theater experience on the road is
important to you, as it is to me, then this should be a big
consideration. If not, then the 2007 would get my vote.

Craig

, "kemper_mm"
wrote:

Hello all!

We do not yet have a Kodiak chassis MH but we are looking and
seriously considering a Jayco Seneca with the Duramax motor. We are
wondering if it would be best (abet more expensive) to wait for the
2008 chassis.

We're told the '08 will have 330hp, more torque and a 6 speed
Allison
transmission. Actually, we don't understand the difference between
the 2007.5 emissions "stuff" and the 2008 emissions stuff. Is there
really a difference between the '07.5 and '08 motors? We are also
wondering which would provide the better fuel mileage.

What do you think? All opinions/advise would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Paul & Linda

Well, we did it! Just got back from the dealer's after buying a Jayco
Seneca HD 34SS. It is a 2007 (chassis built in Oct.'06)so the engine
doesn't have all that emissions stuff. Delivery is scheduled for next
Thursday, can't wait.

Paul & Linda

Re: 2007 vs 2008

Reply #6
Yahoo Message Number: 50
Congratulations.....it's a great rig. You will love it.
Where did you buy it?

Craig

From: KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kemper_mm
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 6:48 PM
To: KodiakChassisClassC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [KodiakChassisClassC] Re: 2007 vs 2008


--- In , "Craig Davis"
wrote:
Quote
Paul ~

I also think that the Duramax w/o all the extra emission controls
will get slightly better mileage. We have a 43SS and now get 10+ MPG
at 55-60 MPH. ( after the Duramax was broken in after 10,000 miles)

The only real downside to the 2007 IMO is the Entertainment Center.
In my 2006 the television was centered which allowed me to retrofit a
32" Sony Bravia HD flat screen in place of the smaller CRT model.

In 2007 they moved the TV to the passenger side limiting the screen
size and destroying any hope of maintaining a " surround" sound
field. In 2008, after many complaints, Jayco came to their senses
and placed it back in the middle and did a nice job of hiding the
front speakers.

Bottom line, if having a Home Theater experience on the road is
important to you, as it is to me, then this should be a big
consideration. If not, then the 2007 would get my vote.

Craig

--- In ,
"kemper_mm"

Quote
wrote:

Hello all!

We do not yet have a Kodiak chassis MH but we are looking and
seriously considering a Jayco Seneca with the Duramax motor. We are
wondering if it would be best (abet more expensive) to wait for the
2008 chassis.

We're told the '08 will have 330hp, more torque and a 6 speed
Allison
transmission. Actually, we don't understand the difference between
the 2007.5 emissions "stuff" and the 2008 emissions stuff.
Is there

Quote
really a difference between the '07.5 and '08 motors? We are also
wondering which would provide the better fuel mileage.

What do you think? All opinions/advise would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Paul & Linda

Well, we did it! Just got back from the dealer's after buying a Jayco
Seneca HD 34SS. It is a 2007 (chassis built in Oct.'06)so the engine
doesn't have all that emissions stuff. Delivery is scheduled for next
Thursday, can't wait.

Paul & Linda


Re: 2007 vs 2008

Reply #7
Yahoo Message Number: 51
Congratulations. Hope you enjoy it and that it is trouble free.

Don

kemper_mm wrote:

Re: 2007 vs 2008

Reply #8
Yahoo Message Number: 52
Craig Davis wrote:
Quote
/Congratulations.....it's a great rig. You will love it. /

/ /

/Where did you buy it? /

/ /

/ /

/Craig /

/ /

/ /

/ /

*From:* KodiakChassisClassC @yahoogroups. com [mailto:KodiakChass
isClassC@ yahoogroups. com] *On Behalf Of *kemper_mm
*Sent:* Friday, August 31, 2007 6:48 PM
*To:* KodiakChassisClassC @yahoogroups. com
*Subject:* [KodiakChassisClass C] Re: 2007 vs 2008

--- In KodiakChassisClassC @yahoogroups. com
, "Craig Davis"
wrote:

Paul ~

I also think that the Duramax w/o all the extra emission controls
will get slightly better mileage. We have a 43SS and now get 10+ MPG
at 55-60 MPH. ( after the Duramax was broken in after 10,000 miles)

The only real downside to the 2007 IMO is the Entertainment Center.
In my 2006 the television was centered which allowed me to retrofit a
32" Sony Bravia HD flat screen in place of the smaller CRT model.

In 2007 they moved the TV to the passenger side limiting the screen
size and destroying any hope of maintaining a " surround" sound
field. In 2008, after many complaints, Jayco came to their senses
and placed it back in the middle and did a nice job of hiding the
front speakers.

Bottom line, if having a Home Theater experience on the road is
important to you, as it is to me, then this should be a big
consideration. If not, then the 2007 would get my vote.

Craig

--- In KodiakChassisClassC @yahoogroups. com
, "kemper_mm"
wrote:

Hello all!

We do not yet have a Kodiak chassis MH but we are looking and
seriously considering a Jayco Seneca with the Duramax motor. We are
wondering if it would be best (abet more expensive) to wait for the
2008 chassis.

We're told the '08 will have 330hp, more torque and a 6 speed
Allison
transmission. Actually, we don't understand the difference between
the 2007.5 emissions "stuff" and the 2008 emissions stuff. Is there
really a difference between the '07.5 and '08 motors? We are also
wondering which would provide the better fuel mileage.

What do you think? All opinions/advise would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Paul & Linda

Well, we did it! Just got back from the dealer's after buying a Jayco
Seneca HD 34SS. It is a 2007 (chassis built in Oct.'06)so the engine
doesn't have all that emissions stuff. Delivery is scheduled for next
Thursday, can't wait.

Paul & Linda

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